Return of the ... 5th International

0:30 Welcome to the show

Walton is away again
I am back in Mexico
Coordinate group with the Music Manumit

1:47 Book Deal

We are partners with Powells Books
Allies Across the Border

United Electrical Workers organized a sit-in

5:18 Tech Update

My laptop got the white screen of death
Good support from System76
Will be doing a Statusnet install with a member of Mayfirst

8:14 Part two of the Interview

Peter Waterman explains his background
Interest in Internationalism as communication

11:50 What can unions do

Dedicating union staff to communication
Let loose on the Internet
Incapacity of unions to communicate effectively

15:00 Another kind of world

Cyberspace is another kind of reality, like cinema...
It is real virtuality
New Unionism and Unionbook are attempts, but subversive to top down labor

17:40 Tension between Vertical and Horizontal

Trade union conference is not like Occupy
Need some forms of coordination instead of top down leadership
Move from controlling to influencing things instead

20:15 Unions need to go to school

Need to work with the new social movements
If unions need a consultant should talk to Michael Moore, He has working class background
Need a Labor site dedicated to dialog

23:20 Swarm Theory

Light and flexible formal structure, Large long time commitment
Occupy Movement is a swarm
Worker or Collective articulation connects to swarm

28:00 The 1992 paper

People were pissed off at me
"'The 5th international?' What kind of shit is that?" ~union boss

30:14 Wrap up

Peter Waterman's intro in the beginning
See you all next week

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